John Titor Hoax Debunked - By John 'Razimus' Hughston for Hoaxhunter [Mar-12-2009]
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John Titor claimed he was from the year 2036, he also claimed time travel was invented in 2034. It doesn't take a genius to see that we will not build a time machine in 25 years. Yet the John Titor story continues to draw in sci-fi fans.
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On Thursday, January 20th, 2005 at 6:55 PM, I sent an email to Dr. Michio Kaku, a leading theoretical quantum physicist and co-founder of String Theory. I asked him the following question concerning John Titor.
"I don't know if you've heard about the supposed time traveler named 'John Titor'. To summarize: A guy posted on the internet in 2001 and claimed to be a time traveler from 2036. He claims his time machine works by using 2 mini black holes. Could you tell me the chances of him being for real?"
--- John 'Razimus' Hughston on 2005
I received a reply from Dr. Michio Kaku, he said the following concerning my question on John Titor.
"I think the person you mentioned is a fake. Mini black holes do not have the power to bend time"
--- Michio Kaku on 2005
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Lets take a look at some predictions made by John Titor.
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1. "Soon, CERN will bring their big machine on line and they will be smashing very fast and high-energy particles together. One of the more odd and potentially dangerous items produced from this incease in energy will be microsingularities"
--- John Titor on Feb-15-2001
"The physics breakthrough will happen at CERN in about a year or so"
--- John Titor on Nov-03-2000
False. CERN and the Large Hadron Collider have never created a micro black hole or 'microsingularity'.
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2. "The source of power for the C204 that allows it to distort and manipulate gravity comes from two microsingularities that were created"
--- John Titor on Feb-01-2001
False. 'microsingularities' or mini black holes cannot warp space-time, according to Dr. Michio Kaku, leading theoretical quantum physicist.
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3. "The 'Mad Cow' story here is yet to begin"
--- John Titor on Jan-31-2001
False. This is a CNN article on Mad Cow dated April 25th 1997: http://www.cnn.com/HEALTH/9704/24/nfm
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4. "Y2k is a disaster, many people die on the highways when they freeze to death tryingto get to warmer weather"
--- John Titor on Jul-29-1998
False.
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5. "The government tries to keep power by instituting marshal law but all of it collapses when their efforts to bring the power back up fail"
--- John Titor on Jul-29-1998
False.
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6. "A power facility in Denver is able to restart itself but is mobbed by hundreds of thousands of people and destroyed"
--- John Titor on Jul-29-1998
False.
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7. "Russia is covered in nuclear snow from their collapsed reactors"
--- John Titor on Jul-29-1998
False.
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8. "The civil war in the United States will start in 2004"
--- John Titor on Feb-01-2001
False.
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9. "The civil war in the United States will start in 2004. I would describe it as having a Waco
type event every month that steadily gets worse"
--- John Titor on Feb-01-2001
False.
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10. "As a result of the many conflicts, no, there were no official Olympics after 2004"
--- John Titor on Jan-29-2001
False.
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John Titor managed to get all 10 of these predictions dead wrong. If Dr. Michio Kaku's statements and John Titor's many failed predictions haven't convinced you that John Titor is not a time traveler I don't know if anything will.
After listening to reason, Dr. Michio Kaku and Titor's many failed predictions the question isn't'was John Titor a time traveler?', the real question is, 'who is John Titor?'.
My first report on John Titor was released on September 25th 2004 in which I proved John Titor's 'unique' terminology did exist before he posted, the three rare terms used by Titor were "gravity lock", "super universe", and "local gravity".
My second rerpot on John Titor was released on February 13th 2009 in which I proved that very few of the people that replied to John Titor's post continued to post on the internet, and even fewer continued to talk about John Titor. I suspected those few namely the Anomalies.net people, but they are not John Titor. Due to the circumstances I decided to find the true identity of John Titor.
--- John 'Razimus' Hughston
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ReplyDeletehoaxhunter, stop using the it never happened so he is not true logic because it doenst work.
ReplyDeleteLike when people say that titor is fake becase we had the olympics.
This logic could be easily debunked by saying he came to the timeline where we live and staying here he made changes in the timeline and those changes made the his predictions false.
PS: I dont believe that is titor is true.
Ironically a Coast to Coast AM caller said tonight (and it was arrogant of her to say) that George Noory's reputation was impeccable to us all, and she said this after George had said that John got all these things right and was a brilliant man. George also would only mention John's failure to predict what would happen at the Chinese Olympics correctly and poo pooed it as if it were no big deal. This world is truly messed up.
ReplyDeleteThe basic (john) wheeler-everett-graham multiuniverse hypothesis (multiple timelines) has merit but is controversial, and makes physicists queasy. We live in interesting times no doubt, the possibility of future nuclear war is as great as ever. We await LHC/CERN's restarted efforts; it ain't over yet.
ReplyDeleteI have a real question. Where did the 1998 info come from? Because if read through the info and his" science" he states you can't go back to the same worldline. So anything from him in 1998 is this world would be straight useless to use here because it would have been from him. As of predections that do or don't come true. In the "science" it would be a deviant worldline from his and the same things wouldn't happen at the same time or at all.
ReplyDeleteI don't care whether it is true or not, because it doesn't matter if it is or not, but it is still an interesting read.
So the original question stands, where did you get the 1998 "predictions?"
This is the so called Michio kaku argument that the story is a hoax? Come on...give me a break. An email two lines long asking about the possibility two black holes causing time bending(and not even that accurate)? And an email answer that tiny black holes cannot bend time? As far as I know, mr. Kaku may not have seen this question at all, maybe thought you are a pranker and a whole lot of assumptions. It is unethical for you to use the Professor's name in such a manner making him look as if he helps your research. As if you are asking God if one can make people from the ground and He says No. What does this mean?
ReplyDelete'Well here's the research as I've done it. John Titor was really born in 1998 but not a baby from a mother's womb but rather a character on Art Bell's show "Coast to Coast AM" so he wasn't lying the Character John Titor was born that year. What people fail to realize it that John Titor began posting right before Art Bell would reclaim his radio show in 2001
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Posted by John Titor on 01-27-2001 12:45 PM
Original first poster
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Return: On January 24, 2001, it was announced (in Vancouver, Washington's "The Columbian" newspaper), Art Bell would return to Coast To Coast AM on February 5, 2001
How about a coincidental since the only online records of John Titor talking to someone is Art Bell.
If you look into the story John Titor talks about the future they coincide with and align with the beliefs of Art Bell.
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Bell returned to the United States and studied engineering at the University of Maryland, College Park.
Which would explain some knowledge of physics and the terms used in the postings.
My conclusion John Titer is real a real character made by Art Bell
Dispute that one
Joel
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John titor is FAKE. I'm 12years old and its 2015. As John titor stated the world will end in a nuclear war.russa is a passive countary and so is America however it takes more than one good man to change a countary I strongly believe that Europe is smart enough to see world war 3 when it happens and I hope it never does. 3 billion people dead that would be HUGE. Every one would make a commitment to stop that happening and religion is a different proses yes we do have a war in religion but we have many United nations against that and black holes is crazy. Only the smartest would make a buck hole and why a black whole small or big would devour everything and it would not have the capability to change time I can assure you that russa is safe from nuculer snow because it would have already happend . I think there would be no civil war between America because all nations have agreed to a pece treaty. We are not going to freeze to death because humans are capable of producing heat in fat and many people are fat or obese so they would survive I just want to say do not worry the end of the world will not be in my life time
ReplyDeleteKid, looks like you didn't really look it up properly(can't blame you since you're just a 12 year old) , JT did mention about different world timelines, where anything that happens at his original time in 2036 might or might not happen to this world timeline which is the one we're currently in, and as the use "muteblue" says, where do this article author get all these 1998 predictions?
Deletethere is no way to prove or disprove titor with out getting access to all of cern's files. the multi dimensional theory is the only way time travel can exist or else the butterfly effect would cause mass level extinction when people try seeing how life began. and you posted incomplete information on what he said. plus a troll like you couldnt get an intern to talk let alone one of the leading minds in the world...........oh ya the whole cern has not made mini black holes thing where did you get the info because if it was from cern if titor is correct cern wont tell you anything that points to their plan
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